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Can You Top This?

August 3, 2009 by Gilbert 4 Comments

We had a great day at United yesterday…the energy was high, the creative elements were incredible, the band rocked and based off of some of the comments and e-mails I’ve gotten so far, the message was challenging.  Now here comes the reality I and the team face every Sunday afternoon…”That was great but in another 160 hours or so, we’ve got to do it all over again and it has to be just as good if not better and it has to be completely different from the week before”.

To be honest, that kind of “can you top this’ pressure can be overwhelming at times.  This isn’t major league baseball where having a hit 3 out of every 10 times will land you in the hall of fame…NO…people’s spiritual lives and eternities hang in the balance.  So that’s why we work so hard and try to do everything with excellence.

However here’s the flip side.  It’s also possible to hinge your entire relationship with God on what’s happening.  In other words, if it’s a good day, you feel good about yourself and where you’re at with God.  If it’s a bad day, you feel worthless and like you let God down.

Your saying “Ok Gilbert that’s great, but what does that have to do with me”?  Well my fear is that too many of you don’t realize that God will never love you any more or less than He does right now!  There’s nothing that you can say or do that would change His mind…He is 100% head over heels in love with you!  Now that’s not to say that He’s not pleased with our obedience or grieved by our disobedience, but when it comes to your worth in His eyes, that is unchanging.

So today live without the pressure of having to “top your yesterday” and just live in His love!

Filed Under: Theology Tagged With: excellence, love, pressure, United Worship Experience, worth

Inside Today’s Experiences

August 2, 2009 by Gilbert 1 Comment

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  • What a great day!
  • I promised an unforgettable opener to the Experience and I don’t think the team disappointed.
  • The 9:45 crowd was about to explode our of their seats…the energy was incredible.
  • If you missed it, you definitely missed something special.
  • One of our core values is that…”Excellence honors God and inspires people”.
  • Even the midst of the band covering 70’s music, I couldn’t help but get a little choked up as I saw the team giving their all to God in the hopes that something like that would prepare hearts for what was yet to come.
  • The band worked incredibly hard and the video plus medley was the perfect start to the series.
  • Great job by Brian in  coming up with the arrangement and I thought Andrea knocked her parts out of the park.
  • Brian and the stage team did an awesome job creating a new set…definitely one of my favorites.

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  • I think the new times periods worked out great.
  • I felt so goofy in my 70’s garb and wig, but I was pleased that the fu-manchu grew in.
  • Gayle as well did a great job in covering “Imagine”…such a beautiful song, too bad as we saw in the message that the lyrics are so unrealistic.
  • Thankfully though Jesus has a better way…”Love your enemies and pray for those the persecute you”.
  • I’m also still amazed at how seriously Jesus takes the whole forgiveness thing…in essence…if you don’t forgive others, God will not forgive you.
  • The energy at 11:15 was completely different…however still a good day!
  • Right before the first Experience I was in my office and the phone rang.  I answered and it was a man (not from the church) asking if he could meet with me ASAP.
    • I told him I could meet at 12:30 and he said that was fine.
    • When I met with him you could tell he was broken and struggling.
    • To make a long story short, after a few hours and many tears, he prayed to ask Jesus for His forgiveness and to be the leader of his life.
    • I’m not going to mention the man’s name or his struggles, but if you could generically pray for him and his family this week, God knows who it is you’re praying for.
  • I told you this story because again there is nothing else in life like helping people discover Jesus.
  • Yes we had 2 great Experiences and yes I got to be up front doing my thing…but sitting with someone in my office and leading them into a relationship with Christ was by far the highlight of my day!
  • So who are you inviting next week…again we’ll be doing something special as we look at the 1980’s and I’ll be preaching a message based off the song, “Everybody Hurts”.

Filed Under: Inside Today's Experience's, Rewind series Tagged With: Andrea Miller, Brian Miller, Core Values, costume, forgiveness, Gayle Krull, gilbert thurston, Imagine, Jesus, love, Rewind series, salvation, United Worship Experience

Random Tuesday Thoughts

July 29, 2009 by Gilbert Leave a Comment

  • Finally got confirmation that the number baptized two Sunday’s ago was 42!
  • This past weekend was hectic but great.
  • Friday night I was at church for the rehearsal of the wedding I was doing on Saturday.
    • At one point one of the organ petals got stuck.
    • Remember in “Dumb and Dumber” when they did the most annoying noise in the world…ummm yeah, I’m just saying.
    • Had to call Earl so he could line up a repairman while I continued with practice.
    • After practice I put the final touches on getting ready for the class I taught on Saturday morning.
  • Had 45 people show up for the “Get Connected with God” class.
    • I tried to cram it all into 2 hours, but ended up going 2 1/2.
    • As I’ve been getting e-mails in response, the #1 complaint has been that the class wasn’t long enough.
    • I said it before and I’ll say it again…this class is awesome!
    • Here are some excerpts of just a few of the e-mails I’ve gotten…
      • “I would recommended that EVERYONE take this class if you ever offer it again”.
      • “I wish I would have had this class much earlier in my Christian life…I hate to admit it, but I still feel like a baby in the Word- but now that I have the tools, that is going to change”.
      • “This class has given me a game plan”.
      • “This class…will take us (husband and I) into a higher level of knowing our God and understanding our purpose”.
      • “I guarantee you that everyone who took the Get Connected To God class today came out with a better understanding of what it takes to develop the habits we need to grow to spiritual maturity and how to bring that about”.
  • The wedding went very well then in the afternoon.
    • Congratulations to Ronnie and Kristy Yarnell!
    • At the reception, we sat with the organist who was asking questions about United.
    • Our table was about in tears with laughter watching this guys expressions as we kept sharing and you could just see the shock on his face.
    • He kept asking, “Wait a second, you did that in church”?
    • He said he wants to come visit…he’ll be easy to recognize…he’ll be the one with his mouth gaping open the whole time.  :)
  • Sunday I’ve already blogged about, but I’ve heard some really good stuff in the meantime about how people felt convicted and challenged by the Experience.
  • The new web-site is also getting a lot of good feedback and a lot of traffic.
    • One person I forgot to mention in my excitement of announcing it last Friday was Ashleigh Schwindt.  Many of the pictures on the site she shot and I’m glad we have someone with her skills in the church.
    • Ashleigh has her own photography business and I’m in love with one of her models!
  • We are hosting Micah Brickner this week at the church to help him in his internship with our region of the denomination.  Micah wants to plant a church in the next few years so he’s spending the week with us learning the good, the bad and the ugly (insert whatever staff person’s face you want with each:)).
    • Please pray for Micah and my good friend, Chuck Frank as the region attempts to plant as many churches as possible in the next 5-10 years.
    • If you’re interested in something like this, go here.

Filed Under: Random Thoughts Tagged With: 2020 Initiative, Ashleigh Schwindt, Ashleigh Schwindt Photography, baptism, Chuck Frank, Dumb & Dumber, Earl Mills, Eastern Region Conference, Get Connected to God class, Kristy Yarnell, Michas Brickner, Ronnie Yarnell, testimonies, United Worship Experience, web-site, wedding

Happy Spiritual Birthday to Me!

July 27, 2009 by Gilbert Leave a Comment

Today marks 16 years since I became a follower of Christ!  Does this mean I can drive the church van now?  In all seriousness, it is the best decision I ever made.  I was doing well in business at the time, but ever since I met Lisa, I had felt that there was something missing in my life…there was definelty something she had that I didn’t.  There was something about her life and church that was nothing like mine.

About 7pm that night there was a knock at my door and it was 2 guys I had met from Lisa’s church.  While I knew Keith and Marvin were good guys, I didn’t invite them in, but instead offered to sit with them out on the front porch.  After a bit of conversation, they asked me two questions that forever changed my life.

“Gilbert do you know for certain that if you were to die today that you would go to heaven?”  I quickly responded, “Of course I would”.  Then they asked, “If you were to die today and stand before God and He were to say to you, ‘Gilbert, why should I let you into my heaven’, what would you say?”  Again I was quick with an answer, “Well I go to church and I try to do the best that I can.  I know I haven’t been perfect, but I definelty try to do more good than bad”.

What they shared next with me, shocked me in some ways, but at the same time revealed that missing piece I was searching for.  Over the next 20-30 minutes they shared with me the Gospel.  For the first time it made sense!  Why had I never heard this growing up in church?

Marvin and Keith shared that…God wants to give us heaven as an absolutely free gift and there is nothing we can do to earn that gift, nor do we even deserve it.  The problem for us though is our sin.  Even just 3 sins a day adds up to tens of thousands over the course of a lifetime.  Are we really going to be able to stand before God and say how “good” we were? I had to agree that “no, I sin a lot more than 3 times in a day”.  I was starting to getting a sinking feeling…maybe I was too quick to assume that I was going to heaven when I died.

They continued on by sharing that while God loves us and doesn’t want to punish us, He is also just and fair and must punish our sin.  In my mind I swore…I dropped a couple of “F” bombs as I thought about how messed up I was…not even realizing at the time that I was compounding my problem.  “How in the world am I ever going to me good enough to repay God for all this,” I thought.

What they shared next answered that for me…I wasn’t ever going to be good enough.  “Well then we’re all just going to hell then,” I asked.  “No,” they said.  “Well then what’s the solution?’  They asked me who I thought Jesus was.  “Well he was the Son of God, he was a good teacher, he did some miracles, he taught us how to live”.  “Yes, that’s true” they replied, but “Who is Jesus?”  “My goodness taking the SAT’s was easier than the questions these guys are throwing at me,” I thought.  “I don’t know…please tell me”.

What they shared next literally has changed my life forever.  “Jesus was actually God Himself, who took on human flesh and blood and lived the perfect and sinless life that you and I can never live and then died on the cross so that all of our sins can be forgiven”.  In other words, someone needs to pay the penalty for your sins…either it will be you standing before God claiming that you were perfect, or you’ll allow Jesus to pay it for you.

I remember starting to well up with tears as I realized that God loved me so much that He had come to die for my sins.  Marvin and Keith shared some other things with me, but I just couldn’t escape the realization that if I continued down the path I was on, I deserved eternal punishment in hell and I recognized that I actually deserved it.  But then also realizing that Jesus made a way possible for my sins to be forgiven…even remembered no more…gave me a sense of peace and hope.

When they were done talking they asked if everything had made sense and if i was ready to ask Jesus for His forgiveness and leadership in my life?  Years later Marvin told me, “We didn’t really have to ask you that question…you could see it on your face that you had just had an encounter with Jesus and that you were ready to put Him first in your life”.

So right there on my front porch, on July 27, 1993, I prayed and asked Jesus to forgive me of my sins and help me down a new path in life.  From day 1 then I realized that you don’t do good things in order to be saved, but as proof that you are saved.  Jesus said, “By their fruit you will recognize them”.   My fear is that too many people claim they love Jesus with their mouths, but yet their hearts are far from him.  In other words, Jesus said, “If you love me, then you will obey my commands”.   Again not because you’re trying to earn God’s favor, but rather out of gratitude for what He did for you.  Here’s another way to think of it…Jesus gave up His life for you and now He wants you to give your whole life (time, money, actions, words, thoughts) back to Him.

So here we are 16 years later.  Have I been perfect…no far from it…but I am perfectly forgiven and to the best of my abilities as the Spirit of God which lives inside of me directs me, I try to follow His every prompting.  I often say that, “God wants and has a better plan for your life than you even have for your life”.  I can say that with confidence because for 16 years now I’ve seen it played out in my own life.

I’ll wrap up with this…”If you were to die today and stand before God and He were to say, ‘Why should I let you into my heaven’, what would you say?”  If the answer has anything to do with anything other than Jesus, then review what I wrote above and pray and ask for His forgiveness and leadership, then commit to following Him for the rest of your life.  What’s cool is if you do that today…you and I will share a spiritual birthday…so happy birthday to me and happy birthday to you!

Filed Under: Theology Tagged With: EE outline, gilbert thurston, Gospel, Jesus, Keith Skidmore, Lisa Thurston, Marvin Bowers, salvation

Inside Today’s Experiences

July 26, 2009 by Gilbert Leave a Comment

  • Sitting in my office getting ready for our staff picnic.
  • Had a great day!
  • Couple of minor glitches in the set-up portion and the keyboard died in the 10:45 (RIP), but other than that we couldn’t have asked for a smoother day.
  • First, any day when people come into a relationship with Christ, it’s awesome…4 more today…God is so good!
  • I’m really loving the new song “Yours Forever” that the team has done the past few weeks…great stuff!
  • I also liked the new song today called “Ready Now”.  It was cool to intro it at the beginning of the Experience and then use it as a response song to the message.
  • I love doing vision messages.  Nothing gets me fired up more than reminding people why we’re doing what we’re doing.
  • The response so far to the message has been incredible…the real test will be in actually applying it…hope for a lot of new faces next week!
  • The bumper video that Aaron put together was awesome.  What’s funny though is it took he, Brian and I almost 2 hours to record the voice overs.  For some reason we couldn’t get the equipment to record it right…so we did it again…and again…and on a different machine…and again…and on a different machine…and…
  • It’s a shame some of them didn’t come out…Brian and I were having a lot of fun coming up with different things to say.
  • The two videos I used today I thought were powerful as well.  Here are the links.  Pauline Jacobi getting robbed.  Penn Gets a Bible.
  • I love that line…”How much do you have to hate someone to believe that there is a heaven and hell yet not tell someone how to escape it”. (paraphrase)
  • Again it amazes me that an atheist understands that better than many people in churches.
  • So one more time…Do whatever you can to invite people next week as we begin the REWIND series, by looking at the decade of the 70’s and specifically John Lennon’s, “Imagine”.
  • Also be sure to check out the new web-site and join the United Worship Experience fan page on facebook.

Filed Under: Inside Today's Experience's Tagged With: Aaron Schwindt, atheist, Brian Miller, Facebook, gilbert thurston, Imagine, John Lennon, Pauline Jacobi, Penn & Teller, Ready Now, Rewind series, salvation, United Worship Experience, vision, web-site, Yours Forever

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